✽ Social Media Links ✽
(Loren does not have a public Twitter account at this time.)
Carolyn’s Personal Website
Loren’s Personal Website
✽ Before You Contact Us, Read This First ✽
This is the JOINT website of Carolyn AND Loren, so when you use this “Contact Us” form, be respectful of this fact, and do not make a point to exclude one or the other of us from your correspondence.
We do not do interviews. So please do not use this form to ask us to do an interview with you.
⇒ PRIVACY & SAFETY
However: we take your privacy seriously. If we choose to address your important comments or questions that you send to us via any of the comment forms on our website, or via a direct email to us, we will not share any personal identifying information, such as your name, your email address, or IP address. Neither will we share any information that is considered by us and/or stated by you to be of a private, personal nature. The only two exceptions are in the case of a security threat, as described in the notice directly above the contact form, and in the case of false teachers/prophets/ministries who contact us.
Additionally, please do not send us your private information, such as your telephone numbers or your street address or your bank account numbers (true story….). This is not a wise thing for anyone to do. See: “Survivor Safety and Lessons Learned.”
⇒ EXPECTATION OF COMMUNICATION
Our email is not set up so we can find pen pals or new friends with whom to regularly correspond. We may respond to your email, but we likely will not. Either way, we are not looking for pen pals or new friends, so please respect our privacy in this matter and do not provide us with your personal information with the expectation of further conversation, whether it is via telephone or Skype or Zoom or another form of telecommunications. If there is any communication between us, email is safest and it is what we prefer.
See also: “Survivor Safety and Lessons Learned.”
⇒ DEBATES & ARGUMENTS
Our email is NOT set up to debate back and forth on any given topic. The opinions we express on our website are our opinions. If you do not agree with our opinions or if they are offensive to you, you are welcome to email us to let us know, if it’s important to you to make sure we know how you feel. However, we still will not engage in debate or argument. Our arguments are set forth on our various blogs; there is no need to engage in lengthy debate/arguments via email. It’s a waste of time and energy for both you and us.
⇒ PSYCHICS AND FALSE PROPHETS
We are not psychics. We have renounced all occult gifts. The types of questions you can expect to not receive an answer for include asking for predictions for the future. The long and short answer to those types of questions is this: focus on your relationship with your Heavenly Father and stop worrying about the future; ask Him to guide you and trust Him.
Additionally, for your own sake, do not come to us with your predictions, either via this contact form or via a direct email or a comment on this website or on our social media pages, especially if you claim to be a “Christian.” If you call yourself a Christian and you give predictions (“prophecies”) that do not come true, this proves you to be a false prophet, and you will be outed on this website, calling attention to you and to your false prophecies, so that others can be warned away from you and your teachings. This is particularly true if you claim to have a “ministry” and you have a following, whether it be 80 people or 80,000 people.
⇒ DELIVERANCE COUNSELING, COACHING, AND OTHER ASSISTANCE
WHO WE ARE
We are ex-occultists, former infiltrators, and survivors of trauma and mind-control agendas, and on this website, we are merely offering our opinion and suggestions on certain issues based upon our specific life experiences and our understanding of the Bible.
We have written at length about these things in many different articles on this website, in our book, and Loren writes about it often on her personal website, so please take the time to read. They are written to help you.
WHO WE ARE NOT
» We are not mental health professionals or counselors, and we do not offer advise regarding your mental health or the mental health of others, so please do not treat us as such.
If you need help finding a therapist or counselor near you, here is a resource where you may be able to find help: https://www.sidran.org/help-desk/.
If you do not know where to go in case of an emergency, a list of hotlines to call can be found here: www.sidran.org/resources/hotlines/.
Here is another resource to search lists of helps that are arranged by the country you live in: http://www.befrienders.org/directory.
* NOTE: We do not personally endorse the above-linked services, and offer them only as a convenience to you. Take advantage of the resources at your own risks, assessing your own needs as well as the qualifications of the individuals with whom you come into contact.
» We are not “life coaches” to help you walk you through life decisions, so please do not treat us as such.
» We also are not deliverance ministers/counselors/life-coaches, so please do not expect us to act as such. If you are looking for deliverance, please read this article before you email us: Before You Email Us: Deliverance is Not a Destination.
And although we know of many people who claim to be deliverance ministers/counselors/life-coaches, we do not know of anyone who is actually qualified to do so, either from a secular standpoint or from a Biblical viewpoint. So right now, there is no one we are able to recommend. If that ever changes, we will be sure to update this website with that information.
Our best advice in regards to deliverance is to become a disciple of the Word of God. This is where your deliverance is found! We have written at length about this in many different articles on this website, in our book, and Loren writes about it often on her personal website, so please take the time to read. They are written to help you.
If there is a church near you that is giving solid Bible teaching, then you are better off than most, so learn from them, but be vigilant in always lining up what they are teaching with what the Word of God actually says. (In other words, don’t blindly follow what someone else says what the Bible says… find out for yourself what God’s Word says!)
» We are not programmers, whether to “deprogram” or “reprogram,” so do not ask us to help “deprogram” you.
The long and short of our response to this particular request is this: God doesn’t program people; He heals. So stop looking for someone to “deprogram” you, and start looking to the Heavenly Father to heal you. We have written at length about this in many different articles on this website, in our book, and Loren writes about it often on her personal website, so please take the time to read. They are written to help you.
» We are unable to provide assistance for you if you are in danger, so reach out for help from resources nearest you, not to us. Any help we have to offer is in the form of suggestions or advice, and can be found in our blog posts.
» If you are being gang-stalked or harassed in some fashion, unfortunately we can’t help you. We do not have the resources nor the ability, and any help we have to offer is in the form of suggestions that can be found in this blog article: “Advice for Those Who Are Being Gang-Stalked and Harassed.” So please do not ask us to do what is impossible, but instead, reach out to those resources within or close to your community.
✽ NOTICE ✽
EMAILS OR MESSAGES THAT ARE THREATENING TO THE PEACE, SAFETY, OR THE LIVES OF OURSELVES, OUR LOVED ONES, OR TO OTHERS, WILL BE TURNED OVER TO THE PROPER AUTHORITIES AND MAY BE SHARED PUBLICLY ON THIS WEBSITE, AT OUR DISCRETION. So just don’t send threatening emails. Work your feelings out with a therapist, or something of the sort.