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Carolyn’s Personal Website
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You can contact us by filling out the contact form below.
✽ Please Note ✽
This is the JOINT website of Carolyn AND Loren, so when you use this “Contact Us” form, be respectful of this fact, and do not try to exclude one or the other of us from your correspondence.
We do not do interviews. So please do not use this form to ask us to do an interview with you.
⇒ PRIVACY & SAFETY
However: we take your privacy seriously. If we choose to address your important comments or questions that you send to us via any of the comment forms on our website, or via a direct email to us, we will not share any personal identifying information, such as your name, your email address, or IP address. Neither will we share any information that is considered by us and/or stated by you to be of a private, personal nature. The only two exceptions are in the case of a security threat, as described in the notice directly above the contact form, and in the case of false teachers/prophets/ministries who contact us.
Additionally, please do not send us your private information, such as your telephone numbers or your street address. This is not a wise thing for anyone to do. See: “Survivor Safety and Lessons Learned.”
⇒ PEN PALS
Our email is NOT SET UP so we can find pen pals or new friends with whom to correspond. We may respond to your email, but we likely will not. Either way, we are not looking for pen pals or new friends.
⇒ DEBATES & ARGUMENTS
Our email is NOT set up to debate back and forth on any given topic. The opinions we express on our website are our opinions. If you do not agree with our opinions or if they are offensive to you, you are welcome to email us to let us know, if it’s important to you to make sure we know how you feel. However, we still will not engage in debate or argument. Our arguments are set forth on our various blogs; there is no need to engage in lengthy debate/arguments via email. It’s a waste of time and energy for both you and us.
⇒ PSYCHICS AND FALSE PROPHETS
We are not psychics. We have renounced all occult gifts. The types of questions you can expect to not receive an answer for include asking for predictions for the future. The long and short answer to those types of questions is this: focus on your relationship with your Heavenly Father and stop worrying about the future; ask Him to guide you and trust Him.
Additionally, do not come to us with your predictions, either via this contact form or via a direct email or a comment on this website or on social media, even if you claim to be a Christian. If you call yourself a Christian and you give predictions (“prophecies”) that do not come true, this proves you to be a false prophet, and you will be outed on this website, calling attention to you and to your false prophecies, so that others can be warned away from you and your teachings. This is particularly true if you claim to have a “ministry” and you have a following, whether it be 80 people or 80,000 people.
⇒ COUNSELING & COACHING
We are not mental health professionals or counselors, and we do not offer advise regarding your mental health or the mental health of others. Neither are we in the position to help you walk you through life decisions, or to provide help for you if you are in danger. So please do not treat us as such. We are ex-occultists, former infiltrators, and survivors of trauma and mind-control agendas, and we are merely offering our opinion on certain issues based upon our specific life experiences and our understanding of the Bible. Please see our disclaimer. You can also read our short bios to better understand where we are coming from.
✽ NOTICE ✽
EMAILS OR MESSAGES THAT ARE THREATENING TO THE PEACE, SAFETY, OR THE LIVES OF OURSELVES, OUR LOVED ONES, OR TO OTHERS, WILL BE TURNED OVER TO THE PROPER AUTHORITIES. So just don’t send threatening emails. Work your feelings out with a therapist, or something of the sort.
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