This is my very first try at making a video. For many months I have been wanting to share some of what has been on my heart, but I just didn’t have the energy. Tonight just felt right, so I decided to give this video making a shot.
Keep in mind that this is very raw…very impromptu. I had no script. I skipped around a bit on topics and once I completely lost my train of thought. 😛 Oh well! I share bits of my testimony here and there to help illustrate a few points.
It is my plan to be sharing more of my thoughts in video form on a regular basis and cover more specific topics. Loren Grace and I will be making more videos together soon too!
by Loren Grace
We have recently received quite a bit of traffic to this particular web page (from “The Vigilant Citizen,” which is a page that is open to public viewing) via this URL:
So I (Loren) am updating this article.
I noticed that on July 22nd, one particular woman (I’m assuming a woman… sorry if I’m wrong about that) who goes by the name “Stephania” on “The Vigilant Citizen” forum, posted the following about Carolyn:
I listened to her videos on the site still remaining. She said that a guy associated with her told her to delete her blog. She also says in her testimony on remaining video that she believes luciferianism or is not sure because of their teachings if light belongs to them or Christ because of her strange female handler… Not associated with Christ. She is lost…
She’s trying to break free but has retained her programming.. IMHO
The light doesn’t come from the children of darkness.. lol
Here are the screenshots of her comments about Carolyn that came one right after the other:
When I saw her comments, I immediately filled out a form to become a member of the forum, and I responded with the following:
Hi Stephania, can you please share which video you saw on our website that states that Carolyn said what you claim? Thanks. 🙂
Stephania then responded by giving a link to this page (https://carolynandloren.com/2018/06/25/carolyn-hamlett-thoughts-from-the-heart-vlog-1/0).
Here is a screenshot of my response and her reply:
I then took the time to re-watch and listen very carefully to every word that Carolyn said on the video found on this page, and I then penned (typed, if you want to be picky about it… lol 😁) a response to Stephania.
However, that particular response was not (as of this update) approved by the moderators of “The Vigilant Citizen” (although it may eventually be approved, but I can’t say).
Therefore, I am updating this article to reflect my response to Stephania’s public accusations.
My Public Response to Stephania’s Public and False Accusations Against Carolyn Regarding the Contents of this Video, “Thoughts from the Heart, Vlog #1”
Hi Stephania, thanks for getting back with me! 🙂 I appreciate being given the opportunity to clear up a misunderstanding.
About Your Claim that Carolyn Said a Guy Told Her to Delete Her Blog
I listened to her videos on the site still remaining. She said that a guy associated with her told her to delete her blog. …
First, the video you watched (https://carolynandloren.com/2018/06/25/carolyn-hamlett-thoughts-from-the-heart-vlog-1/) was published last year in June of 2018. Carolyn did not delete her old blog on Blogger until March of this year (2019).
Second, it wasn’t done because “a guy” told her to do it. There have been some people throughout the years who have told Carolyn that she needs to stop doing what she’s doing, including to stop blogging and to stop doing videos, sharing the info that she shares. But she doesn’t listen to them.
At any rate, she deleted her Blogger website because she was transferring from Blogger to WordPress, a transition that is still in progress as Carolyn goes through old material and updates it.
(And, btw, even though Carolyn still owns the domain name “Beyond the Physical,” she decided to go with a new name on her WordPress site, “Exposing Lucifer’s Plan in the Last Days,” because this much better expresses her mission.)
There was a short period of time (about a month, I believe) where Carolyn’s blog was completely shut down on Blogger and her new one was not yet live on WordPress, but it’s because she and I (I was helping her get her WordPress website set up) were getting the new blog on WordPress ready to go with some important preliminary info that is important for Carolyn to get out. And it was because it’s what Carolyn wanted; not because “a guy” told her to do it.
Third, Carolyn has clearly explained why she got rid of her Blogger website and opened her blog at WordPress, and it has nothing to do with “a guy” telling her to delete her blog. Carolyn’s a fully grown, 60+ year-old woman. lol If she wants to take down her blog and start over with a fresh one, then that’s what she’ll do, and her decision had nothing to do with “a guy” that told her to do it.
(Carolyn also talks about this topic around the 26:00 mark in the video you watched, although at that point, in June of 2018 when the video was published, she hadn’t yet made the decision to shut down Blogger and move to WordPress.)
Fourth, at the “1:08:11” mark of the video… please re-watch that section. I believe that may be where you believe Carolyn said that “a guy associated with her told her to delete her blog.”
But that is not what Carolyn said at all!!
Around the 1:08:11 mark, Carolyn started talking about a man who took down a series of YouTube videos she had previously done with him that covered her testimony; consequently, Carolyn took down the article that was on her Blogger blog that was referencing those YouTube videos. There was no point in having the articles up on her blog if the videos that accompanied the articles had been deleted. But that was an incident that had nothing to do with Carolyn’s Blogger website, and nothing to do with Carolyn subsequently transferring her blog from Blogger to WordPress this year.
So, again, to read why Carolyn deleted her Blogger website and transferred to WordPress, see the above article.
About Your Claim that Carolyn Said She Believes Luciferianism or “Is Not Sure”
She also says in her testimony on remaining video that she believes luciferianism or is not sure because of their teachings if light belongs to them or Christ because of her strange female handler…
Carolyn NEVER said that “she believes Luciferianism or is not sure” one way or the other, for any reason whatsoever. Carolyn did express in the video around the 1:16:40 mark about how, before she came out of the occult and was saved, that she was confused (“mixed up” is how she worded it) about many things.
But you have completely taken her words out of context to not only the video that you watched, but also out of context to everything that we have shared in our book we wrote together, and also out of context to everything that we continue to share in our blog articles on both our joint website as well as our personal websites.
One of the major things that both she and I try to warn Christians of is occult infiltration within Christianity. This occult infiltration is very clearly evident in many “churches” because of the Luciferian (occult, new age, Gnostic, theosophical) doctrines that they teach and practice. So, within those “churches,” it is NOT the light of Jesus Christ that is evident; but it is the false light of the antichrist. I have been privy to see this false light MANY times within what are supposed to be “Christian” churches, and Carolyn and I wrote about it some in our book. You can read it here: “The Shining Ones, Point Seven.”
Carolyn also shared at the end of the video, beginning around the 1:23:35 mark, a personal experience she had while still in the occult. And I think that this is where you are getting confused (and, as a result, are falsely accusing Carolyn of saying that she “believes luciferianism”… but I’m not sure if this is where your confusion is coming in, so a time-stamp would be more helpful than you trying to summarize what you believe to be Carolyn’s message). But at the end of the video, Carolyn talks about when she met a being who was called the “Most Illumined of All.” If you listen to what Carolyn shared, she clearly states that happened when she was involved in the occult, it occurred at a church/cathedral in the astral realms (see 1:25:35), and she was brought to what is known as a “full illumination.”
And yes, Carolyn tries to warn people of this deception! Satan is deceptive not because he comes cloaked in darkness… but because he masquerades as light! And the light can be so beautiful and so deceptive that many people will mistake it for the “light of Christ.” (In fact, many occultists actually call it “the light of Christ”… but it is a FALSE light. It is not the TRUE light of Jesus Christ, the Son of God.)
As Carolyn clearly shared in the video, she nearly fell for the deception at that time! She very nearly believed, at that time, that the “light being” that she was introduced to was actually Jesus. But the grace of God allowed her to see that it was a deception of Satan. Soon thereafter, she left the spiritual hierarchy, and she has been working ever since to warn people of Satan’s many deceptions.
So with these things in mind, I hope you can take the time to re-watch the video and really LISTEN to the whole of what she is saying. Here are some time-stamps where Carolyn shares info that I believe is of especial importance to take notice of: 21:45, 24:08, 28:05, 30:30, 48:40, 51:15 – 54:11, 58:09 – 1:07:47 (two very important sections!), 1:12:00 – 1:14:30, 1:20:22. The list of time-stamps could go on, but in these sections, Carolyn made what I believe are some key points that I hope you can fully understand.
As you re-listen (assuming you decide to re-listen, of course), please don’t take her words out of context and falsely accuse her saying that “she said that she believes luciferianism” or that she said that she “is not sure… if light belongs to them or Christ…”
That is an outright lie, and no where on the video did Carolyn say that.
You have a right to disagree with anything or everything that Carolyn says or writes or does, but you do not have a right to lie about what she has said or written or done.
Although, to be fair, I am assuming you have told these lies not based upon malice but out of grossly misunderstanding what Carolyn said in her video.
On the other hand, Carolyn and I are not infallible. We make mistakes, and sometimes we aren’t as clear on a point as we should be. And perhaps Carolyn, in this video, who, as she stated in the very beginning of the video, was still suffering from the negative effects of chemo at that time (have you heard of what is called “chemo brain”? This is what Carolyn was suffering from when she made this video), wasn’t as clear as she normally would have been able to be in the past with expressing her heart.
(Although, I believe she was perfectly clear… but perhaps I’m unfairly biased because she’s my friend… lol 😄 … and also because her and I have spent a lot of time together, talking, and I already know her heart, so maybe it’s easier for me to understand what she’s talking about, “chemo brain” or no.)
At any rate, this is why I am taking the time to try to clear up the misunderstanding and to refute the lies you told about what you claim that Carolyn said in her video.
I do believe, however, that if you re-watch Carolyn’s video with this post on this forum in mind; and if you continue to read and watch the material on our website; then you will see where we are coming from. And I believe that you will see that you have grossly misjudged Carolyn and have spoken an untruth about her. Carolyn is NOT a Luciferian, nor does she hold to or believe in Luciferian teachings. She is a Christian who is trying to warn people who claim to be Christian that the false doctrine they are falling for within their churches is Luciferian. She is trying to warn people against the false light of Satan, the false light of the antichrist, and point to the True Light of Jesus Christ, the Son of God.
One last thing before I go (sorry this post has been so long…! lol).You said:
She’s trying to break free but has retained her programming.. IMHO
First, that’s a nasty little dig… and yet another attempt by the enemy (the demonic) who are using you to insert not only lies about Carolyn, but who are also using you to insert doubts about the veracity of Carolyn’s testimony…
But moving on…
One major thing that Carolyn and I have talked about and written about many times now, is finding freedom and healing (“breaking free”) from programming. And while “trying to break free” on our own might yield some positive results (and there are practical things that we can and should do that can be very helpful), ultimately it will never completely work. True healing and freedom and deliverance comes only from the Father, and we must submit to the Father and allow HIM to set us free. So, personally speaking, I no longer “try to break free.” Instead, I focus on my relationship with my Father and HE sets me free! 😄 It’s so much easier this way! Carolyn and I address this in several places throughout our book, throughout our blog, and I address it throughout my personal website, as well. If you are interested in learning more about what we have to say on this topic, a good place to begin is probably here:
Thank you for giving me the opportunity to address your concerns, and I hope this helps clear up not only your misunderstandings, but also any misunderstanding that others may have based upon your false accusations.
If you have any other misunderstandings about anything that is on our websites, feel free to contact us via our website’s “contact us” page and we’ll do our best to help clarify. Or you can ask on this thread, I guess, if you want… I just would hate to take away from the original topic of your post, but either way works for me. 😄
P.S. for our readers:
After further interaction with Stephania…
(as can be publicly read at the above link… and if the link doesn’t work after a while, or if posts get deleted — or if I get banned from the forum… which, for all I know, is possible — I have screen shots.
Here’s the link again: https://vigilantcitizenforums.com/threads/satanic-ritual-abuse-sra.5968/)
…I’m not inclined AT ALL to have further conversation with Stephania.
Once it becomes clear to me that someone is purposefully lying and/or gaslighting, then I cut off communication. I will not engage any longer!
Unfortunately, experiences have taught me that trying to reason with such people is like trying to bash through a spiked brick wall with my bare skull.
It just doesn’t work.
And, btw, this goes for ANYONE who tries to interact with me. Once I find out you are purposefully lying, I will cut off communication with no regrets whatsoever. I absolutely refuse to put up with manipulation any longer in my life. Not gonna happen! 😄
If you make a mistake, OWN UP TO IT!
If you say the wrong thing, OWN UP TO IT!
But stop trying to make excuses and trying to blame other people for your mistake. That doesn’t fly with me…!
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