Zetas, the Illuminati, and Satan’s Ultimate Plan


We received the following email from someone who wants to know about the role the Illuminati plays in propaganda, particularly in regards to the alien race of Zetas:

This all started with a simple Google search–I wanted to know the history of the Sabbath and how the Saturday Sabbath turned into Sunday. Scrolling through the comments on an article, I found that someone had posted something along the lines of the Illuminati being behind the Sabbath change.

I never really believed in the Illuminati, thinking that it was a paranoid conspiracy–and just that. However, I felt compelled to look a little more into it, more than I had when I first was told about the conspiracy. That’s when I stumbled on A Minute to Midnite, and Carolyn’s interviews.

I found a startling similarity between her experiences and the ideas being portrayed on the infamous ZetaTalk website, blogged by Nancy Lieder. I never really believed Nancy’s ideas, but I found her weekly pole shift Q & A to be quite interesting.

Are you familiar with ZetaTalk?

If not, Nancy describes the Zetas as some sort of alien race that works in the “Council of Worlds,” which is constantly monitoring the human race and all of our actions leading up to the passage of Nibiru and the pole shift. However, which is more startling, is all the ideas she boasts about that suggest that the Zetas are really involved in the Illuminati. She uses such phrases as “the Elite,” “service-to-self” and “service-to-others” beings, two differing states of spirituality. The Zetas supposedly aim to help bring the human race to a new level of enlightened spiritualism.

My question to you two: Is Nancy Lieder’s Zeta propaganda actually based in the Illuminati? (because it sure sounds like it)


We are only superficially familiar with Nancy Lieder, but we have a few thoughts to share about the points you brought out in your email.

The Sabbath

Many of us are taught from early childhood that Sunday is the “day of rest,” meaning a type of Sabbath, but it is not. Just because mankind decided to stop observing the Sabbath and claim it is on the first day of the week rather than the last day of the week as the Heavenly Father has decreed does not change when the Sabbath actually is. The Sabbath is on the last day of the week. The Bible has never changed on that point. What day you choose to attend church services, if you attend church services, is up to you. First day, third day, last day — it doesn’t matter. But the Sabbath is on the last day of the week, and mankind, no matter how hard they try, cannot change this fact.

Since we’ve received questions about the Sabbath from other people, we’ll likely be addressing this subject separately, but we encourage everyone to do their own study on how to keep the Sabbath, going to the Bible as their source. Here are a couple of links to get you started:

De-glorifying and De-mystifying the “Illuminati”

There may be those who are genuinely connected to bloodline “illuminati” families who are simply sharing the truth of what they have been born into and what they have been a part of. However, there are many others who are using the term in a sensational way to call attention to themselves for one reason or another, including “christians” who apply the identifier “illuminati” to themselves to get more attention from people and to make themselves look and sound important and special. Many times, we dare say, the motivations behind this is ego-based, and since this term “illuminati” has been overused to the point of ridiculousness, many believe it is simply a conspiracy theory. However, it is not a conspiracy theory, but a conspiracy fact.

Please understand the following points:

  • There are many variations within what many call “illuminati families,” but the word “illuminati” is simply a term used to describe those people who belong to certain families who are infiltrators working Satan’s plan in various ways in the physical world and in the supernatural. That’s it. There’s nothing special about this group of “elites,” as you can see, and certainly not anything to brag about or to hold in high regard.

(We go into detail about Satan’s plan on earth and for mankind in our book “Doctrines of Demons: Exposing Christian Witchcraft.”)

  • While it’s true that some in this group live rich and lavish lifestyles, others are of average or below-average wealth.
  • Many times those within these families have arranged marriages, and these relationships can either be overtly or covertly arranged. This is to keep certain bloodlines within certain families, and can also serve to hide the bloodlines. (Bloodlines are hidden because not everyone is meant to serve Satan’s plan in conscious ways, but are to be used as an unconscious infiltrator.)

These arrangements are not always done with conscious or malicious intent on the part of the ones doing the arranging, although at times there certainly can be a conscious ill intent. But the demons who are driving the individuals within that family — the same demons who have followed and driven the family for countless generations — will ensure that the humans they are controlling will do as they, the demons, are bidding them to do, and marry the individual the demons want them to be with. These arranged marriages not only serve to keep the individuals themselves under tight control, but to also ensure that any children produced by the union will be of a certain quality that make it easier for the demonic to control, train, and program for particular purposes.

  • Within these bloodline families there are three basic types of people:

○ Conscious Infiltrators: those who know exactly what they have been born into, and what they have been trained or programmed to do.

 Unconscious Infiltrators: those who have been trained or programmed to work Satan’s plan, but are unaware of this training or programming. This can sometimes be because of dissociation.

 The Innocent: those who have nothing to do with working Satan’s plan and are completely oblivious to those within their own families who are.

  • While there are those infiltrators within society who do not identify as Christian, there are others in Christian churches or groups who call themselves Christian. While they may call themselves Christian, and very often actually believe themselves to be a Christian, their belief system is, in fact, Luciferian. Depending upon the situation, not all who hold to a Luciferian belief system will openly admit it or even recognize it for what it is. For instance, those who are unconscious infiltrators may not recognize that their belief system is Luciferian.

While this blog post is not to get into the ins and outs of Luciferianism, overall, the infiltrators believe themselves to be “more enlightened” or “smarter than” the average person. This “enlightenment” is also called illumination, and is speaking to a belief system whereby knowledge (particularly of spiritual matters) and the quest for that knowledge is highly valued above all else. Obtaining this knowledge is part of an overall spiritual evolution that the individual is trying to achieve. Within Christian circles the word “evolution” is not usually used, but more Christian-sounding terms are substituted, such as “the deeper things of God,” or, “the hidden secrets of Scripture.” We go into different code words used by conscious and unconscious infiltrators in our book (Link: Glossary), and we urge you to read it.

10-1-2017_Q&A_zetas_illuminati_satans_ultimate_plan.pngPlease don’t misunderstand. We are not saying that it is more desirable to be ignorant and uneducated. We are not saying that people who are educated are Luciferian. What we are saying is that there is a difference between knowledge and understanding. Spiritual knowledge that is not foundationally secure on the truth of God’s Word is not of God and will lead to a misunderstanding of spiritual truths. This misunderstanding will lead to serious error and eventually a spiritual death. Therefore, the quest of the true Christian should not be to gain knowledge. But the quest of the true Christian should be to follow after a relationship with the Heavenly Father. From there, all else follows.

Zetas and Alien Races

According to some artistic renderings of what “Zetas” look like, they remind both of us of a particular being that we both met, who was the leader of the larger group of what many call the “Greys.” Whether or not he called himself a “Zeta” or not, we have no idea (and don’t really care, one way or the other 🙂 ), but he looks similar. However, the major thing we would like to point out is that any so-called “alien races” are simply demonic beings that have been disguised in various ways.

That said, there are many diverse reactions when people talk about “aliens.” One, of course, is to disbelieve. The second is to be frightened of them. The third is to glorify them and any experiences with them. All three reactions are wrong.

First, just because we don’t personally see or experience something doesn’t mean it’s not real. And related to this thought: just because something is real does not mean it comes from the true God and is Scripturally sound! “Alien” (demonic) encounters, while real, are not endorsed by Scripture and they are not authored by the true God!

Second, there is no reason to be afraid of “aliens.” They are only demons or fallen angels. If you have submitted yourself to the Father, you are under the authority of Jesus Christ, and you can tell them to leave and they have to leave. The authority to do this comes only through Jesus Christ.

Third, these types of encounters are not anything to brag about or to be proud of, and there is no reason to look to people who have had experiences with these types of demons as being people who are somehow “super special and cool” because they have had encounters with these demons. So what? Who cares?! There’s nothing “special” about having so-called alien encounters. What is special is having a relationship with our Heavenly Father!

Along that line of thought, anyone who is having ongoing problems with alien abduction, encounters, harassment, or the like, can find freedom through fostering a relationship with their Heavenly Father, something that is only made possible through Jesus Christ. In our book, “Doctrines of Demons: Exposing Christian Witchcraft,” we talk about finding freedom (Link: Finding Freedom). The process we wrote about can be used for a myriad of issues, but we wrote it specifically to address finding freedom from end-time programming and finding freedom from the fallen angels and the demonic. Since aliens are demonic, what we wrote applies to finding freedom from them as well.

Satan’s Ultimate Plan

In our book we wrote:

Satan’s overall plan is to lead people into deception by bringing all religions into one New-Age, Luciferian (Satanic) “spirituality,” whereby people are open to the supernatural and to the influence of the fallen, allowing them full access to people. This is paving the way for his final Antichrist to appear. He accomplishes this overall goal by using infiltrators, both conscious and unconscious, and in the physical as well as in the supernatural, to spread this universal “spirituality.”

The ultimate goal of the infiltrators are to train people, through occult doctrines and techniques, to come into agreement with and enter into a false “unity,” also known as “Christ Consciousness” (among other phrases), thinning the veil between the spirit world and the physical world, thereby paving the way for the false Christ (the final Antichrist) to appear.

(Link: Final Review)

There are many different plans that Satan is working at any one time, and he uses different groups of people to work those plans in the world. Those different groups of people often use different terms or explain his plans in different ways, but they are all talking about the same thing.

For instance, phrases such as “the Elite” or “Council of the Worlds” are simply terms that are being used to describe Satan’s hierarchy, as well as those humans who “work with” them and are being used by Satan and his hierarchy. Satan’s hierarchy consists of fallen angels, and they often refer to themselves as “highly evolved” entities that are meant to “help humanity evolve spiritually.” Many times they will go by names such as “Ascended Masters” or “Galactic Masters,” and sometimes they even refer to themselves as “aliens, angels, archangels, or spirit guides,” but they are all of the demonic.

So in an attempt to clearly answer your questions: aliens, including Zetas, are demonic beings, and they use people to work with them in various ways to further Satan’s agenda. They use people from every society, and this includes people who are from bloodline “illuminati” families. But regardless of what those people believe, the demons are actually using them, and not working with them. This satanic agenda is leading to the appearance of the final Antichrist, and ultimately, the destruction of mankind. These “aliens” (demons) are not here to help humans “spiritually evolve,” but to use humans as vehicles through which they can infiltrate society and spread the infection of Satan’s plan to ultimately destroy humanity.

What Really Matters

So many are focused on trying to figure out when the end of the world will take place and how it will occur. Even amongst some Christian circles, there is an obsession with Biblical prophecy, and constant “prophecies” that are supposed to predict things that are going to happen, leading up to the end of the world.

But what does it matter if you are physically prepared for the end of the world if you are not spiritually prepared? What does it matter if you physically survive the end of the world if you are spiritually dead? We should be more concerned as to what Jesus said about end times and how to prepare (Link: http://biblehub.com/bsb/matthew/24.htm), rather than what a person says about so-called ET’s, pole shifts, Nibiru, or Planet X.

Zetas, pole shifts, hidden planets… none of that matters. What matters is a relationship with our Heavenly Father, something that is only possible because of Jesus Christ. This is what really matters. Focus on your Heavenly Father, focus on understanding His Word (the Bible), and all else will fall into place.


Loren and Carolyn ♥

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